Articles by "East Of The Wall"

East Of The Wall has been around for sometime now and since we spoke with them in 2009 a lot has changed. The band has been hard at work making music as any other musician would be capable of doing. These guys talk to me about what they have been up too since our last conversation.


1. So tell me what has East Of The Wall been up too since we last spoke in 2009.

Matt: Malfeasance! Also geomancy and… whatever the opposite of philanthropy is. But mostly we've been making music. At the moment we are pretty deep into our new album, although we're not quite sure what form it will take. I'd say we have a nice compact little EP basically put together, but we could be adventurous and try and expand it to a full length. However we always try to be somewhat thematic and put out a cohesive narrative, so to speak. I hope that's the vibe that people have gotten off our music: that there's some kind of overall…direction behind each of our albums. But the more songs we add to the story, the harder it is to tie it all up together.

2. For those who don't know who East Of The Wall is can you tell us the brief history of your band.

Matt: There actually is no "brief" history of East of the Wall; there is only long-winded, overly-complicated, and not-very-intersting-to-anyone-who's-not-in-the-band history. Long story short, some of us have been playing together since 1995. The first song Chris and I ever played together was NOFX's "Don't Call Me White." Bart once got kicked out of a show for an incident related to an inflatable king tut. Squid got wasted while piloting a plane through a parking lot. And Ray makes me look like an idiot on guitar even though likes Led Zepelin (I think???)


3. Who are your musical and non-musical influences?

Matt: There are certainly many musical influences for me, but let's focus here on one that may not be too obvious: Fugazi. Great chordal concoctions, such raw aggression, obtuse lyrical content, and just supreme motion (if that makes any sense). So much of their later stuff in particular really moves towards great climaxes, and takes some very interesting turns along the way.

Non-musical influences? That's a tough one but I'll go with Kurt Vonnegut. Utter disappointment in the human race has never been so uplifting.


4. Who writes the songs, what are they about?

Matt: We all write the songs and I suspect that they are pretty much about ourselves…even the way we interact with each other. There's a fair share of introspection going on and hopefully that helps us to understand ourselves and each other better, and maybe even improve our writing. There is no absolute here; all of our songs carry a degree of ambiguity. However there is definitely a pervasive theme of trying to get a handle on who we are (as individuals) and how our interactions with the world reflect our identities.


5. How do you promote your band and shows?

Matt: There are so many ways to promote your band at this point, and the great thing is that there's no right or wrong. You try something and if it works that's great. If not, you move on. So of course there's social media, and there's networking, and there's press, and there's other options. But the most important part in my opinion is to make the product itself as awesome as you can. The idea is to get more people to listen to your sonic constructions, so I really put most of my energies into making those constructions more than worthy of listening to.


6. Can you describe your show, visual and musically for us.

Matt: There are bursts of energy and there are passages of stillness. There are highs and there are lows. There is light and there is darkness. There is long hair and there is short hair.


7. What advice would you give to fellow bands?

Matt: Never cancel a gig the day of (barring medical concerns or acts of nature). It's the equivalent of missing a business meeting or dipping out on open heart surgery. Every show is an opportunity to have a great time doing what you love in front of people who could be deeply affected by your music. Only 2 people at the gig? That's 2 more potential fans than yesterday. Lead singer quit the band this morning? Go instrumental; singers suck anyway. Lighting rig is on the fritz? HOW DID YOU AFFORD A LIGHTING RIG TO BEGIN WITH??? Just play the show. I've seen bands duck out and it is not very impressive.

8. How does music affect you and the world around you?

Matt: Music is a base, a starting point, a concept you can build from. Yet at the same time it's a modifier, an augmentation, the cherry on top. How does language affect us and the world around us? How does conflict affect us and the world around us? To trace the patterns of influence with regard to any of these subjects would require a PhD in philosophy and a bit of madness. I possess only one of these two things.

9. What's new in the recording of your music?

Matt: The Apologist is our most recent recording and it's been very well received. I actually love reading reviews of our music, but maybe that's because it's almost always positive…even the few negative reviews out there seem to find something about the music that they can relate to, and that's very satisfying to me. And when folks come up to us before a show and relate very specifically how our music has affected them…it's the best. I don't delude myself; our music is certainly not for everyone. But the people who like it seem to have more than a passing fancy for it.

In terms of new recordings, I mentioned earlier that we're well into the writing of our next release, but we don't have any studio time or release timing planned at all. We loved working with Andrew Schneider at Translator Audio, and maybe we'll get to do that again. But whatever we do, it will likely be a different approach to recording from last time…and that's par for our course. Every time we go into the studio we bring our learning and reactions from the previous recording experience.

For me the recording is just as important as the live show. People are going to listen to your albums much more often than they will see you live, so the recording is really the version of your music that people become familiar with. It's important to get that right. On the other hand, shows are your chance to show people that, no matter how great the recording sounds, or how well you composed the album, it still can't possibly communicate the full extent of disgusting beastliness that exists when you and your buddies get together and play some songs.

10. What inspires you to do what you do?

Matt: I just need to create something; something that wasn't there before. And I have confidence that this thing I create is desirable to others. Why do you knit blankets? Because other people need warm objects to wrap themselves in…because folks seem to like your blankets and, even if no one likes your blankets, you enjoy the process of knitting the blanket, and you could not for one second imagine a life without blanket making. That is why I do what I do.



An interview with The Band:

Please introduce yourself, tell me what you do in East Of The Wall, and how long the band has been together?

Kevin Conway: Guitar. The band has been together for 5 years. The original members (Brett, Mike, and Jeff) played for almost 2 years and put out the EP.

Matt Lupo: Guitar. I got Jeff and Mike drunk and took them to my room, at which point I played for them their own cd, to which I had recorded my own guitar parts. THAT is the way to audition for a band.

Brett Bamberger: Bass. I tricked Conway into spending thousands of dollars and a good amount of his free time for the band once Jeff quit. Best move of my life.

Where is the band from and what is "the experimental scene" like there?

Kevin Conway: We're from various parts of New Jersey. The experimental scene here is small but quite good. We're able to play shows with "experimental" bands like So Is The Tongue and A Fucking Elephant on a regular basis, so that's a plus. I wouldn't say it's necessarily a really popular style of music around these parts, but people do come out to the shows and that's all you can ask for.

Matt Lupo: Actually, there's some pretty crazy stuff going on around here. Can't say that I like ALL of it, but I'm glad it's happening all the same. I think that band of robots started here. Also, that band Big Mechanical Bull is (I'm pretty sure) from around here. They're kinda like rodeo metal. Awesome.

Brett Bamberger: Mainly booth walks and adult squid orgies.

Is there any story or concept behind your CD title "Farmer's Almanac"?

Kevin Conway: Pretty sure "Farmer's Almanac" was Brett's idea. There's really no story behind it. It just felt like it fit pretty much immediately. We think it captures the vibe of the record really well.

Matt Lupo: I like to think of it as a guide for us that we WISH we had in writing our music. We're always trying to harvest this really perfect emotional product from our brains and turn it into music and that doesn't always go so smoothly. Woulda been nice to have our own farmer's almanac to give us some help.

What do you know and think of Romania?

Kevin Conway: Your website is basically the only thing I know of that's from Romania. But it's pretty cool that anyone over there has heard our stuff before.

Matt Lupo: I was in a class with someone from Romania last semester. She was very nice and gave a great presentation for class. I think it might have actually been about farming.

Who did the artwork on the new CD and how much input did you have on it?

Kevin Conway: This guy Eric Nyffler did the artwork and we're thrilled with how it turned out. We pretty much just gave him a basic concept and color scheme and he ran with it. From the first draft he sent back to us we knew he was on to something awesome. He did a really great job of getting the vibe we were looking for.

Matt Lupo: The dude is awesome and the first draft he sent us made us so happy. We gave him a few suggestions and he took those to the bank. When he sent us the finished product I pretty much looked at it and said "That's the best album artwork I ever seen!".

Brett Bamberger: I've only seen the guy when I've been completely wasted. He sounds great on the phone though.

Is MySpace the great Satan of the 21st Century?

Kevin Conway: Well there's two different ways to look at it. On the positive side, I think MySpace is great in the sense that it's really the best way to promote your music these days. For a band like us, we don't do a lot of touring. If not for MySpace, not too many people outside of New Jersey would have heard our stuff. Since we have a MySpace page, people all over the country get to hear our stuff. On the flipside, MySpace has really changed a few things in a negative way. For example, there is now a plethora of bands that have gotten famous solely because of how many friends they have on MySpace. It seems like the record industry has gotten really concerned with meaningless MySpace statistics. I think we'll see over the next few years some of these MySpace phenomenon bands will disappear. I don't know how much staying power their music has.

Matt Lupo: How else would I keep up with everything my friends are doing? Twitter?

Where did you get ideas and inspirations for some of the riffs on "Farmer's Almanac"?

Kevin Conway: I think we just have an unique chemistry when the 4 of us are in a room together, and this ends up being the driving force behind most of the music. For example, when we wrote 'I Am Crying Non-Stop Hysterically', I brought most of the riffs for the song in and played them for everyone. I had a pretty solid concept of what the song was going to sound like. By the time everyone wrote their own parts for the song, it had become something totally different. That seems to be a frequent occurrence with us. Once we get in the room and start doing what we do, things just sort of take shape. There's not a whole lot of planning in advance.

Matt Lupo: We've talked a lot recently about how we've changed since the EP. I like both incarnations of our style equally, and I'd really like to take a stab at trying some material back in the original style, as that was what attracted me to this band in the first place. We'll see what happens.

What are your future plans for East Of The Wall?

Kevin Conway: "Farmer's Almanac" will be coming out on Forgotten Empire Records in mid-November. After that, we have a split EP coming out on Level Plane Records with Rosetta and Year Of No Light. There will be 3 new songs on that one. We've already started writing the next full-length record and have one song finished and a few other ideas that we're working on. Beyond that it's hard to say. Either way, I think you'll be hearing a lot of material from us over the next year or so.

Would you ever want to do an all acoustic show?

Kevin Conway: Definitely. Larry from All Parallels actually just recorded an acoustic version of 'Century Of Excellence' and we might do something with that. I think a good portion of our music would sound really good played acoustically, so who knows? I would definitely entertain the possibility.

How did you come up with the band name?

Matt Lupo: It centers around the concept of espionage and being a spy on the other side of the wall. Think of a spy living a life that's basically a complete lie and trying to cope with that: being in enemy territory, pretending to be someone you're not, and searching for emotional resources to support you in this endeavor. Getting to know people and the culture and maybe even falling in love with someone and not knowing how much of your life is made up and how much of it is real. Did you fall in love with this person because it's your job? Or do you really care for them? Are you listening to the music of the culture that you're situated in because you need to appear to be one of the locals? Or do you actually like those songs? Losing track of who the real you is, and coming to realize that "you are who you pretend to be". And then think about how this translates into playing music. When we play as a band, where does Matt as an individual end and where does East Of The Wall begin? Should this music actually be an accurate representation of who we are deep inside? Or is it an opportunity for us to "play spies" and become something entirely different? I actually expanded on this idea in a song of my own, which is up on my own MySpace page.

Brett Bamberger: Yeah, don't listen to him he's not an original member. If you ask him where he came up with the band names "trap" or "nothing", he'd probably give you a more accurate response. Be wary not to judge him though, my first band was named "ugly" (I was 13).

What bands have you toured with? Are there any that you would definitely want to tour with?

Kevin Conway: We haven't done a full tour since I joined the band. There's a million bands I would love to tour with. Off the top of my head, Dysrhythmia and Don Caballero are 2 bands that I think would be a lot of fun to tour with.

What's your number one favorite style of music to listen/play?

Kevin Conway: That's a tough one to answer. I listen to a really wide variety of music, but I tend to gravitate towards metal, experimental and jazz. That being said, I don't think I've encountered a style of music that I don't enjoy in some form. In terms of playing, I'm most comfortable playing heavier stuff, and occasionally some Naked City type experimental stuff. Playing music is fun no matter what. I don't think it's possible for me to have a bad time if I have a guitar in my hand.

Matt Lupo: I have this problem where I really want to play basically everything that I listen to. It's not even like I get on kicks. I just listen to stuff and get kinda bummed that I will not have enough time in my life to play all the different types of music I want to. Take jazz for example. I would love to play in a little jazz quartet, just standard tunes, nothing too crazy. And also, how about an ambient/drone kinda band? I'd be into that too. Maybe next year.

When you look back on when East Of The Wall first started out, what do you think of you guys now?

Kevin Conway: East Of The Wall existed for a few years before I joined the band, but I was a huge fan. I used to listen to the first EP constantly and still love it to this day. Jeff's guitar playing on that record is really incredible. I think the band has changed a lot since then. What Beards and I do is really different than Jeff, and the dynamic has changed a lot because of that. At the end of the day, I'm incredibly proud of the record we just made and our new material is shaping up really well. It's really amazing for me to be involved in a project I care about so much and to get to play with the guys I get to play with.

Matt Lupo: There's always room for some more blast beats.

Brett Bamberger: I've always held East Of The Wall very close to my heart. Despite all the line up changes the music has always put me in the same spot. I think of us as the same unit that we have always been. Maybe just a bit more dense nowadays.

What do you think of your friends in Biclops and all the projects you guys are involved in now and in the past?

Kevin Conway: Those Biclops guys are dicks. I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them. Actually, me and Brett both play in Biclops. It's a lot different than East Of The Wall, so it's nice to have another creative outlet. There should be a Biclops record out sometime next year, so be on the lookout for that. In terms of Day Without Dawn/The Postman Syndrome, I was a really big fan of those bands also. Out of Biclops and East Of The Wall, I'm the only guy who wasn't in The Postman Syndrome. That band had a huge influence on me as a musician, so it's really cool to be a part of that musical family now.

Matt Lupo: "Understanding Consequences" (Day Without Dawn album) is one of my top 3 favorite albums for 2008. And 'Beasteater' (Biclops song) is one of my favorite songs ever. I regret that I haven't played music with Chris in a while. I pretty much grew up playing music with him and learned so much from that guy. We do have some unreleased material. Maybe we'll finish it up some day. It's some of the most solemn music we've ever written.

Brett Bamberger: Squid & South Gunn are the bomb.

Any final words of wisdom, thoughts or comments?

Kevin Conway: Don't shit where you eat.

Matt Lupo: Always bring baby wipes with you. That way, if you have to eat where you shit, it's not that big deal.

Brett Bamberger: When you go out to eat tip your server well, or else they will have to eat your shit, be forced to get another job & not play their bass guitar. And thank you so much for this opportunity to share our thoughts. Can't wait to see it on your site!

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